notes from my meeting with alex

what i brought to the meeting:

things that have happened in the world:
– nodapl facebook check-ins
– instacart strike
– korryn gaines case, baltimore police and facebook collaboration

– re: korryn gaines, i am interested in facebook users mobilizing on the platform to demand accountability, much in the same way as workers would organize to leverage collective power to make demands of employers. however, when i share this with others, it doesn’t totally click. people don’t immediately “get” the facebook users as workers connection, even though after you say it, there is some recognition that it is possible.
– re: instacart, people working within the constraints of the platform itself to call attention to/organizing against/making demands around the misuse of the platform
– re: nodapl, using the platform itself to make demands around misuse of the platform or what the platform should be used for
– working within the constraints of these platforms feels like a kind of hacking that’s interesting to me

people doing work in this space:
– you
– turkopticon
– lightbeam
– do you know others?

these are potential starting points for my work:
– uber driver api (interesting because access is discretionary)
– chrome extension
– do you know existing organizing patterns? communication patterns?

my goals:
– i want to make something rigorous, but where outcomes are not the same as a commercial project. that puts this in “art” world? but where i can ask good questions
– you know how to ask good questions and how to know which questions are worth asking…

these are questions i have for you:
– what are the organizing affordances of these platforms that’s different from IRL organizing, aside from scale which is the one everyone points to


what i took away from the meeting:

Michelle Miller,
Robyn Caplan, D&S


– way of defining harm
– is there a precedent in consumer protection law?

**dedicated users**
– who wants to be advocated for?
– probably not casual users/earners

– what does “active” mean? different things on different platforms
– what does it mean that a customer or employee can be “deactivated”
– inventing new language, new vocabulary to obscure responsibility/accountability
– talk to companies who have access to the Driver API
——–> automate incentive tracking, prevent wage theft
——–> 3rd party account of drivers meeting expectations

Urban Hail
– Uber cut off their API access

System design critiques
– common in physics; people who worked on the atom bomb
– what are the ethics of working on grocery supply systems when those are mapped to human/employment systems?
– costs (political, human) of this mapping

Discretionary calls
– norms around being public square in conflict with norms around being a corporation

– discretionary access to controlled APIs (like Uber driver API, which has information about routes and fares) as a way of wielding power

Repos to review

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